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Gage fainted

Postby gagesbarb » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:41 pm

We just made an appt to take Gage for a consult with cardiologist...he has had this cough/throat clearing behavior for several years...sounds like he is clearing his throat...no exercise problem, no breathlessness, no appetite/bowel problem, nothing out of the ordinary...I'd talked to the vet previously and he said usually either lungs or heart but with no other symptoms and cough intermittent/occasional, watch and see...couple days ago, we got back from a couple mile walk...all normal, though both dogs still bouncy so we went into the yard...both raced around...Gage started his cough, though went on for bit longer...I started to think he was choking? I ran over to him and as I got there, he fell over and was unconscious--fainted? didn't look like a seizure in that there was no jerky movements, though I know sz's can look like anything...he "came to," and was immediately normal...got up, breathed fine, walked fine...he pooped and we went inside and he was fine...took him to vet, who said he did not hear any heart murmur or other abnormality...my nurse neighbor wondered about a vaso-vagal thing with prolonged cough...vet said that would be very unusual...long story short, Gage has been normal, though coughing a bit more...so off to the cardiologist for consult and ultrasound...we'll see...appreciate knowing any thoughts/experiences anyone has had...
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby Cindy » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:09 pm

That's super scary!!! The only experience I've had with a dog passing out was with our Annie. She had a heart murmur for years which turned into congestive heart failure and something else heart related (sorry it's been a while since I thought about this). I'm sure I still have her records some place which I'd be happy to look for should you find out it is heart related. Anyway, as the disease progressed she would, on occasion, come walking up the hill in our yard and pass out. But once she came to she was fine. It doesn't sound like this is the problem with Gage though so please let us know what you do find out.

PS We just took care of my sister in law's Brittany for the weekend. Abby has something with her esophagus/throat/larynx/?? which causes her to cough but other wise seems fine.The vet said that as dogs age sometimes the muscle become stretched out so things don't operate as they should. It does seem to be worse for hr when she exercises or gets too excited. Sorry, this is about all I have to offer.
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby MaggieRocks » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:38 pm

Yes, that is scary! How old is Gage? I have no experience with a dog "fainting" so I"m no help. I sure hope you get some answers, though, and hope it's not serious and is easily treatable. The worst part is not knowing. Good luck, and keep us updated!
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby gagesbarb » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:29 am

Thanks for your support!! Gage is somewhere around 9-11 years old...when we adopted him from ABR, he had been found running loose and was in a shelter, so no background...he was a bit gray already, and given his fur, etc., he may have had a hard life...but he has been healthy and wonderful since, and we adore him...with the cough, the first thing everyone asks is if he has a heart murmur and then if there is any exercise intolerance or breathing change...but he's full of energy and is as perky at the end of a long walk as he is at the beginning...he runs up and down stairs, bounces around, hops on the furniture---nothing different...so we'll just have to see...you're right that waiting is hard...but he's happy so that's what I'm trying to focus on...We have a wonderful vet specialist group here that is a great resource...sadly (or happily), when I called, they found our record right away...we've worked with them several times over the years...
Our Sam had laryngeal paralysis...as it progressed, he would struggle to breathe and cough with exercise or excitement...but that was more than just a cough...he also had mega-esophagus...all part of a neurological degenerative disease...so sounds more severe than Abby except for the larynx part...I've also had cats who snored as they got older...vet said same thing about stretching/sagging muscles as they got older (same with me :lol: )
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby MaggieRocks » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:23 pm

So how is Gage? Has he had any more episodes? When is your appointment with the cardiologist? (Our dogs are really keeping us on our toes lately!)
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby gagesbarb » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:55 am

thanks for checking...
we see the cardiologist next Tuesday...Gage has been fine...some coughing, but that's the same as it has been...no more fainting...
we've gone on some walks...I've watched him carefully and no sign of breathlessness or lower energy...he trots along ahead of me the whole way :D
the other night, he dragged his quilt off his bed and humped it, played with the cat (they chase each other), played with us, bounced around with JJ, barked at
the "ghosts" in the yard (I'm sure they hear/smell/see something but we don't know what)...he's full of energy...so, we'll see...I'll certainly let you know...

How is Emma??
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby gagesbarb » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:04 pm

We took Gage to the cardiologist today...good news overall, I think--his heart is fine and there were no masses or focal lesions in his lungs...no sign of cancer...Dr said that there were changes in his lungs that she said all dogs get as they get older, but Gage had more...she called it chronic bronchitis...I have to say that I didn't understand the whole thing...said we could do one of three things--invasive procedure with full blown anesthetic and biopsy, brief procedure where he would be knocked out for about 5 minutes and they would do a wash (?) and then culture it so we'd rule in/rule out different bacteria, fungus, or whatever, or just do blanket treatment with antibiotics, steroids and cough suppressant...we opted for the second...we will certainly do medicine, but I don't want to give him more than what we have to, or risk not giving him the right kind and having to repeat...she did mention something like COPD possibly developing and that is scarey, but I decided to not think about that until we know more about what is going on...we're scheduled for the procedure next week...

meanwhile, it has been two weeks and no more fainting...he is coughing some, but doesn't seem to really bother him...did wake him up last night, which I didn't like, but he went right back to sleep...after we got back and JJ thoroughly sniffed him, we went for a 2 1/2 mile walk--no coughing, he trotted the whole way and happily sniffed as usual...At one point, I wanted to turn back to the house so I didn't risk tiring him, and he refused...insisted on going on further :D He and JJ are now curled up next to me napping...as my son says, if I hadn't told him about all this, he wouldn't think anything was wrong...
so, we shall see...
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby Cindy » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:57 pm

That's not bad news at all and I think I would have made the same decision for treatment. Hopefully that will clear things up and no more fainting. And you're right - don't think about COPD unless you really need to. At least you have a plan so keep us posted.
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby DeeDee » Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:12 pm

Hi, I am new to the forum. I’m glad that Gage was found to have no masses or lesions - that is good news! It was very wise of you to take him to the vet to get checked out. I haven’t had that issue with any of my dogs, though when one of them had a cough I did some research online and found this great site with hundreds of articles on pet health conditions. Reading up on things before the vet visit enabled me to understand some of what was explained during the consultation. I took a look just now and found a very informative article on bronchitis. I’ve copied the link here for you - there are many similarities to Gage’s situation mentioned here. https://www.vetary.com/dog/condition/bronchitis Good luck and I hope this gives you insight!
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby gagesbarb » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:48 pm

thanks so much!
I read the reference you cited...seems like Gage has a rather mild case of this, fortunately; he continues to eat well and have lots of energy and no difficulty breathing :D
he will have that bronchial wash this week and then we'll know more...

And welcome to the forum!! tell us a little about you and your dog(s)...I always love to hear about them!
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby DeeDee » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:29 am

Well, I don't have a Brittany..yet! I do have two Aussie's though. Both with health issues so I often look at many dog forums to see if I can learn from others. One Aussie, Skye, has seizures and limited vision. The other, Sydney, has hip dysplasia and severe arthritis (diagnosed at 5 years old). So, I am always reading forums to be sure I am taking care of them the best I can. I have my go-to site for advice
https://www.vetary.com/dog/conditions , but the human side is helpful too! How is Gage?
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby gagesbarb » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:20 am

thought I'd share an update...the further testing indicated that there were no specific infectious organisms in Gage's bronchial tubes, and that is good...concluded that he has mildly inflamed bronchial tubes and we don't know why--fancy name "idiopathic multi cell bronchitis." Other blood test results were normal. they did find he had a urinary
tract infection :shock: although he did not display any symptoms...and the sample was obtained through a needle while he was sedated, so it wasn't contaminated...they did another test and figured out that the infectious agent was e coli...the doctor said that was a common cause and put him on 3 weeks of clavomox...also on a low dose of prednisone daily for 3 weeks and then every other day...we go back in a month to re-check urine and bronchial tubes, though he won't have to be sedated...the cough has gone away :D and he seems to feel fine...it is warmer here, so when we walk, he is a little slower, but that usually happens...poop a little soft, I assume from the antibiotic...he is not drinking and peeing a lot more, though I thought that might happen from the prednisone...I feel terrible that he had the urinary tract infection and we didn't know, but they said that maybe it was just beginning...also said they do find urinary tract infections incidentally when they are evaluating dogs for other things...
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Re: Gage fainted

Postby Cindy » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:45 pm

Thanks for the update - positive news on the cough for sure.
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